Take the Money and Run (2x15: Ocean's 9-1-1)
Get ready to flip your perspective because this episode of 9-1-1 is a real gem!
This week we dive into the hilariously chaotic world of Season 2, Episode 15 'Ocean's 9-1-1', where the 118 are a distraction, and the real heist is our sanity! Bobby and the gang are accused of being part of a plot that spirals out of control, and let’s just say, the detectives in this episode are as incompetent as they come!
We’re all about The Buddie System here (lol), and with Hen in the hot seat facing some serious accusations, you’ll want to hear how our favorite first responders back each other up—because nothing screams “family” like a dash of drama and a sprinkle of whodunit! The detectives' hilariously misguided theories about Athena, Bobby, Buck, Hen, Chimney, Michael, and Eddie highlight the absurdity of assumptions, reminding us to always think outside the box!
Han, Cil, and Rachel explore how this episode flips the usual procedural formula on its head, giving us delightful twists that made us feel like we were watching a movie, with our 118 fam caught in a web of crime, comedy, and confusion. We even imagined what it would be like if Buck, Eddie, and the rest of the squad were to start their own crime syndicate. Spoiler alert: it’s as chaotic and hilarious as you’d expect!
So grab your detective hats, and let’s start from the beginning so we can crack this case wide open.
📔 Articles Mentioned:
📰 How ‘9-1-1’s Breezy Heist Episode Channels ‘Ocean’s Eleven’, TV Insider
📰 ‘9-1-1’ Showrunner Tim Minear Teases Spring Return, Origin Stories & More Season 2 Details, TV Line
📰 Florida teen rescued after being trapped in bank vault for hours, New York Post
Chapters
(00:00:00)-Intro
(00:02:12)-General Thoughts
(00:09:03)-Jaws of Life - Deep Dive
(00:12:52)-Red String Corner
(00:20:46)-Needle Drop
(00:22:32)-Flashover - Themes
(00:34:40)-Who’s Cookin’ - “Motives” for the Heist
(00:36:22)-Buck & Maddie - Lost Their Security Deposit
(00:43:25)-Hen - Stressed About Karen’s Unemployment
(00:54:18)-Chimney - Too Much Time on His Hands
(01:00:12)-Eddie- Too Competent For His Own Good
(01:06:48)-A Very Buddie Resume
(01:11:03)-Michael - Friends with His Ex’s New Squeeze
(01:13:50)-Athena - In Cahoots by Association
(01:18:30)-Bobby - Conspiring with His Fiance’s Ex
(01:19:32)-Where’s the Fire? - Scene Dissection: Bobby’s Interrogation
(01:28:48)-Slow Burn - Bi Buck & Buddie Watch
(01:33:12)-Who’s Your Partner?
(01:40:55)-Take a Buddie With You - Outro
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Transcript
Have you ever watched something that completely rewired your brain chemistry?
Speaker B:A procedural network drama might not be your usual pick, but it's ours.
Speaker C:This is the Buddy System, a 911 deep dive podcast hosted by three friends who have DMed each other enough character dissertations to earn a PhD in media literacy.
Speaker A:I'm Han, coming to you straight from the characters heads.
Speaker B:I'm Syl, bringing you to the observation deck.
Speaker C:And I'm Rachel, connecting the dots with my red string.
Speaker A:With our powers combined, no stone is.
Speaker C:Left unturned and no buddy is left behind.
Speaker C:Ten ought to do it, don't you think?
Speaker A:You think we need one more?
Speaker C:All right, we'll get one more.
Speaker B:I'm so confused.
Speaker B:Can you start over?
Speaker C:Today we're talking about season two, episode 15, titled Ocean's 911.
Speaker C:It's written by Andrew Myers and directed by Mary Wigmore.
Speaker C: ,: Speaker A: of the week, which is Ocean's: Speaker A:Parentheses, from the vault.
Speaker A:Parentheses.
Speaker C:Literally, from the vault.
Speaker A:So let's see if I got this right.
Speaker A:The fake nerve agent tack was a distraction from the armored car robbery, which was a distraction for the diamond heist.
Speaker A:Crime is hard.
Speaker A:Or ex brothers in law Marty and Franklin Prentice conspire to rob a bank with their inside resources.
Speaker A:A perfect crime.
Speaker A:But Franklin gets greedy.
Speaker A:Double crosses Marty by calling the robbery in as he escapes with $6 million in diamonds that were not his stomach's best friend.
Speaker C:No, I.
Speaker C:And that was probably the biggest flaw in his plan.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Well, swallowing diamonds.
Speaker C:Yeah, you.
Speaker C:You would think it'd be a little more well thought out than that and not just like, oh, yes, let me swallow $6 million in finely cut, hardest material on earth, and it's gonna be fine.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:So smart otherwise.
Speaker C:I guess.
Speaker A:Mostly.
Speaker C:Anyways, what did you guys think re watching this episode?
Speaker C:I think it threw us all a little bit for a loop because we were like, how are we gonna talk about this?
Speaker A:How are we gonna do.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think we all like this episode a lot.
Speaker A:Like, I remembered liking it a lot.
Speaker A:It's so much fun.
Speaker A:But as we were watching it, we were like, how the are we doing this episode for the podcast?
Speaker A:Because it's so different.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's not our usual stick.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:I really.
Speaker A:I really love this episode.
Speaker A:Like, I was trying to think of, like, what it reminds me of.
Speaker A:And I know it's Ocean's eleven, but I was trying to think of, like, a television show that it Reminded me of.
Speaker A:And I was like, it's kind of reminding me of, like, some psych vibes, meet some, like, bones vibes.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:It's got, like, all these beats that I really like from, like, detective shows, which, you know, is the whole thing.
Speaker C:Different procedurals.
Speaker A:And I just like whenever there's montages and it's like whenever there's montages around, centering around, like, one person talking to all of them or, like, one thing is happening.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:I love a flashback and I love when it's the.
Speaker A:This was, like the full ensemble and then some.
Speaker C:So, yeah, this was kind of really fun following up on Broken, because I know we talked about how it was very much a.
Speaker C:An ensemble episode as well, but it was a lot more like, you know, they're going to multiple emergencies.
Speaker C:Everybody is getting their time to shine, which kind of carries on to this week.
Speaker C:But everybody is put in such a different scenario, different world than what they usually know and do.
Speaker C:And I think it's always really fun to take your characters out and then just kind of like, pop them into a completely, like, bizarre situation.
Speaker C:Yeah, bizarre situation.
Speaker C:And just see what they do.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's super fun.
Speaker C:And I think this episode does it really well.
Speaker B:I think it's one of my other, like, fun episodes that I really like is like, just one of those go to's that you can rewatch.
Speaker B:Not a lot of.
Speaker B:Not too much character development in there, but, like, it's just fun to see how they're all, like, being put in this, like, really weird situation and how, like, they're all reacting to it, even though we all know they didn't.
Speaker B:They had nothing to do with it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're innocent.
Speaker A:I think it kind of.
Speaker A:I know exactly what it reminds me of now.
Speaker A:I'm so sorry.
Speaker A:It reminds me of the really good Monster of the Week episodes on Supernatural, how I'm like, this does nothing.
Speaker A:But it's so much fun.
Speaker A:I'm having so much fun right now.
Speaker C:Yeah, it take.
Speaker C:It takes you for a ride.
Speaker A:I was thinking of the.
Speaker A:That was thinking of them literally breaking out of jail and then.
Speaker C:Wait.
Speaker C:Folsom Prison Blues.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, that's such a good one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I was thinking about that when they were, like, drilling into the vault.
Speaker C:And, like, with the interrogation as well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:How, like, they had Sam and Dean separated and they were still giving the same story.
Speaker C:Oh, I love that episode.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think that's what it is.
Speaker A:So it just gives me.
Speaker A:It gives me like the happy vibes.
Speaker A:I kind of wish there were more just kind of like the filler episodes plopped in here and there because those are just like the fun ones.
Speaker C:Filler episodes are a lost art.
Speaker C:Or we're losing.
Speaker C:We're losing the ancient texts.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Of.
Speaker C:Of filler episodes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:If you think most series had, like 22, 24 episodes, so you would have opportunity for a couple more like, fillers with 18, like, with 9.
Speaker C:One one that has cut some of the fat off.
Speaker C:So that.
Speaker C:That would be four episodes of more meat in the story or like a filler sort of thing.
Speaker C:I would love to see more of that.
Speaker C:It's just like, while it doesn't give us a lot of character development forward, I think it is really fun to look at how each individual character reacts to the situation because it is going to be different for each one.
Speaker C:So it's more like a brief character study packaged in a little, like, filler episode.
Speaker C:And that's what makes an excellent filler.
Speaker C:Quote, unquote, filler episode is when from the surface, it looks like this is kind of nothing important, like, silly, goofy romp for the whole family.
Speaker C:But when you look at it a little further, it's like, oh, this is some interesting character study.
Speaker C:Even if it's not like.
Speaker C:Even if it doesn't have momentum.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So you mean like masks?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:The one that for some reason half of the fandom didn't like.
Speaker C:And then anyway, no, it's a fantastic episode and it does give this kind of vibe as well.
Speaker C:Not in the same, like, heist way, but.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker B:And it's character centric.
Speaker B:Well, one character centric episode.
Speaker A:I love character centric filler episodes.
Speaker C:This is why we do this.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:It's like slice of life, but not really.
Speaker A:I mean, like, it is.
Speaker A:It's slice of their life because their life is dramatized.
Speaker C:Like their every day is crazier than.
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, I do.
Speaker A:I do love masks.
Speaker A:I think that's a great filler episode.
Speaker A:Like, there's.
Speaker A:It's great laying the groundwork for some things, but there's not really, like, forward.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's not steps moving forward in that episode.
Speaker A:So I think people were expecting a lot of things to happen in that episode, and that's why they didn't like it, which is.
Speaker A:You're gonna be disappointed watching TV if you do that.
Speaker B:I was just gonna say.
Speaker B:And that is why you keep your expectations under 40ft.
Speaker B:Buried in the Ground.
Speaker C:I didn't even have to do that.
Speaker B:No, you didn't.
Speaker C:You did that on your own, buried underground.
Speaker A:But they're still alive down there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can have some hope.
Speaker B:I'm not saying you can't do that.
Speaker A:It's fun to theorize, but you can't be like, yes, the.
Speaker A:The theories that the fandom as a whole has decided should happen is what's gonna happen.
Speaker A:That's not how this works.
Speaker B:No, they've never watched Supernaturals.
Speaker A:And it's not even like when people watch it now.
Speaker A:Like, if they're starting from now, it's not the same as watching it live.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:They know how it ends, so they're going into it with that knowledge.
Speaker B:I was gonna be like, that's our Supernatural reference of the episode.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's our.
Speaker A:That's our several Supernatural references for the episode.
Speaker C:We got them in at the top of the hour.
Speaker A:We did got it out of the way.
Speaker A:So without further ado, should we.
Speaker C:Should we dive into the safe, into the ocean?
Speaker A:Into the ocean of diamonds?
Speaker C:Just like Scrooge McDuck, like, diving into his pile of money?
Speaker C:Yeah, money, money.
Speaker C:Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker C:Okay, so I would love to do that.
Speaker C:No, let's Scrooge McDuck into.
Speaker C:Into the jaws of life.
Speaker A:We're gonna need the jaws of life over here.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:So I did find an article from TV Insider and this one was how 91 1's Breezy Heist episode channels Ocean's Eleven.
Speaker C:And it was an interview with Tim I near this makes sense.
Speaker C:I think we saw previously from a couple episodes ago that some.
Speaker C:Some of the interviews with Tim Minier for like the mid season premiere, he was like very excited about this episode because he name dropped it a couple times.
Speaker C:So this article, just talking about, you know, how this episode came to be.
Speaker C:And he says they came back from the winter break with a run of very dramatic, very harrowing episodes, which they did.
Speaker C:And I think this is a good reprieve from that.
Speaker C:So he said it was time to do something light and airy and fun before our last sweep into the finale.
Speaker C:So everyone deserves to have a romp.
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:It's like him giving.
Speaker C:That's what he said.
Speaker B:Interesting way of putting that.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:So this is like his way of saying, like, I'm going to give all of my characters a little present before I break them again.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And speaking about the.
Speaker C:The episode, he says it goes from a regular case to a who done it and what is it?
Speaker C:And it becomes like the third act of an ocean's movie trying to unspool the heist and what actually happened.
Speaker C:So instead of like taking the ocean's 11 route, where the main characters are the people who do the heist or the crime or anything like that, it's kind of looking at it from that opposite perspective.
Speaker C:And he also was talking about at the very end of the episode we get some concerning news and.
Speaker C:And stuff for Bobby with him being relieved of duty pending investigation.
Speaker C:And that kind of went back to what he teased from the mid season premiere in one of those articles from TV Line and where the interviewer asked, so do we need to worry about Bobby and Athena?
Speaker C:But Tim said, oh, they should be terrified.
Speaker C:Laughs he's so evil.
Speaker C:Oh, they should be terrified.
Speaker B:That's his brand.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What I'm saying is the best laid plans of mice and men.
Speaker C:It will never be completely a road without bumps.
Speaker C:So feeding directly into this.
Speaker C:And that's what a lot of this episode really moves forward.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:With the Bobby investigation stuff coming down the pike.
Speaker C:So I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker C:Oh, they should be terrified.
Speaker C:We know.
Speaker C:Can never have like two nice days in a row for these people, for these characters.
Speaker C:It's just like last episode, everything broke.
Speaker C:This episode, you're under investigation, but funny.
Speaker C:Next episode, everything's bad.
Speaker C:Great.
Speaker C:So this is why he was like, let me give them a little bit of like a glimmer of silly, happy kind of fun times.
Speaker C:Not really, but it's fun for us.
Speaker A:You can have this as a treat.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:The audience.
Speaker C:Yes, you deserve it.
Speaker C:So that's kind of what I, what I had for press articles.
Speaker C:I've connected the dots.
Speaker B:Didn't connect.
Speaker A:Shit.
Speaker C:So moving right along, I think into our red string corner, you know, when we put on our own little detective cats, unlike these incompetent detectives, I think we do a much better job.
Speaker B:Do a lot more research.
Speaker C:We do.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:I don't know, I think we possess logical thinking and they do not.
Speaker A:Yeah, they were like just caricatures.
Speaker C:They were just, they, they really were caricatures.
Speaker C:Like nothing about them was serious at all.
Speaker C:Which makes it so enjoyable and also so infuriating.
Speaker C:So in the episode, the inspiration that the bank manager had about someone getting trapped in a bank vault that had to be drilled out and they kind of show the, the little clip, I don't think exactly the way it happened.
Speaker C:But there was a real life instance where a.
Speaker C:I think it was a 17 year old boy in Florida.
Speaker C:Of course, of Course.
Speaker C:And in.
Speaker C:In the show, I think it said.
Speaker C:I think the little article that they show on the screenshot is Naples, but I think this was Hollywood, Florida, which is close.
Speaker A:They probably have to change the details a little bit.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:So in.
Speaker C: I think it was November of: Speaker C:A 17 year old boy got trapped in a bank vault for hours.
Speaker C:It turned out to be like a complete accident.
Speaker C:I think it was an abandoned bank of America building.
Speaker C:Just got.
Speaker C:Just got trapped in there.
Speaker C:Like, wasn't actively trying to steal anything or do a heist.
Speaker C:Just, just wrong place, wrong time.
Speaker B:So he just walked in there.
Speaker C:Well, it was a band.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, but I guess like the vault still kind of was connected to something.
Speaker C:So the technical rescue team initially contacted the vault manufacturers for advice on how to dismantle the steel door.
Speaker C:And in the end it was a couple former bank employees who saved the day with the.
Speaker C:The code to the vault.
Speaker C:So in real life, they didn't actually drill through the wall of the vault.
Speaker C:They did it by opening the safe.
Speaker C:Like actually like not even cracking the safe.
Speaker C:So I guess that was the inspiration for the in universe 911 thing.
Speaker C:But in.
Speaker C:In 91 1, that real life event did incur, like the fire department to drill into the vault.
Speaker C:So slightly different.
Speaker C:And then I think there were a couple parallels here.
Speaker C:The lady who worked at the bank who was going to be the new manager, having her crush in the courier kind of die right in front of her is interesting foreshadowing for later.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker C:Just watching someone die in front of you, I have no idea who that could indicate at all.
Speaker C:Eddie and Shannon, which just.
Speaker C:Just goes like another tick under my.
Speaker C:They had this plan the whole time board.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker C:So I think that's what I have on that.
Speaker A:Oh, was that it?
Speaker C:Yeah, so far.
Speaker A:Oh, I thought you said a couple parallels.
Speaker A:That was one.
Speaker C:I think that was it.
Speaker C:I think I was thinking of.
Speaker C:No, you.
Speaker C:No, you know what?
Speaker C:I was thinking of the season three episodes that we watched today.
Speaker C:And I'm like, there's so many parallels, but that's so true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's funny because we recently watched episodes 17 and 18 with our friend Nikki.
Speaker A:But then we went back and rewatched this for the podcast and like I got jump scared by Shannon, so I forgot she wasn't.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:Like we.
Speaker C:We were kind of jumping around the timeline a little bit.
Speaker C:So I'm like, who's still alive?
Speaker C:Like, I forgot that she was in this episode.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which is super, really Interesting to me, too.
Speaker C:We'll talk about it.
Speaker C:So maybe that was the only parallel that I actually caught on to and everything else.
Speaker C:I was just thinking of the other stuff.
Speaker A:But anyway, so I bet you're wondering, are they going to talk about Ocean's 11?
Speaker A:So we're going to do that because, like, we have to.
Speaker A:So here's the synopsis for the original Ocean's Eleven movie from the 60s with the Rat Pack.
Speaker A: You know, Ocean's: Speaker A: And I know that the one from: Speaker A:Like, the character names are.
Speaker A:And then I know that there's heists in.
Speaker C:They both take place in Las Vegas.
Speaker A:The casinos in Vegas.
Speaker A:But I don't think that they're super similar other than that.
Speaker A:I think the synopsis of the original one kind of lines up more with how this one kind of went.
Speaker A:So Danny Ocean calls in some of his World War II buddies, including Jimmy Foster, Sam Harmon and Josh Howard, to pull off an elaborate New Year's eve heist at five casinos in Las Vegas.
Speaker A:And 11 members of Danny's crew come together to pull off a perfect robbery.
Speaker A:But they suffer a series of setbacks when Duke Santos, a former gangster, tries to thwart Ocean's plans to disappear with the money.
Speaker A:Duke is the gangster who's, you know, the foil, is engaged to Foster's mother.
Speaker A:So there's still kind of like that.
Speaker C:You know, how, like, our marital relation there.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:They were like ex in laws, so I was like, there's that.
Speaker A:There's that, like, which is a weird relationship, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then I was like, well, this just feels super related while they're trying to escape.
Speaker A:I don't want to get into, like, the full synopsis of how this goes, but basically, you know, like, Duke Santos is the gangster is.
Speaker A:Is like, basically, you need to give me a large portion of that money.
Speaker A:Is like, blackmailing them for it.
Speaker A:And so they're trying to escape with it, and they hide it in the coffin of one of their members who died.
Speaker A:Their electrician died.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:So they hide it in the coffin, they say, and they saved a little bit just to give to his widow.
Speaker C:Oh, that's nice.
Speaker C:So magnanimous of them.
Speaker A:But the, like, the majority of it was in the coffin, but, like, oops, the coffin gets, like, moved from where it was originally supposed to be, like, a state away.
Speaker A:And it gets cremated with him.
Speaker A:So all the money gets cremated.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, that's very much in line.
Speaker A:Got away with the diamonds.
Speaker C:But did he really?
Speaker A:They're, you know, with the dead body.
Speaker A:So, like the loot, the treasure is, you know, morgue, coffin.
Speaker A:We're close enough.
Speaker C:Yeah, that is pretty close.
Speaker A:In the dead body with the dead.
Speaker C:Body surrounding or surrounded by death.
Speaker C: So I know the: Speaker C: I haven't seen the: Speaker C: 's like it's an homage to the: Speaker C: And I haven't seen the: Speaker C:It's probably like a, like a connective tissue between all of those as well.
Speaker C:So, like, to have that kind of visual style too is really fun to, to, you know, link it back to all of this as well.
Speaker A:Then I have two needle drops for you today.
Speaker A:The first one is scenario by A Tribe Called Quest, which is playing during the Search Warrant montage.
Speaker C:Oh, that's such a good one.
Speaker A:Such a fun song.
Speaker A:It's just like the vibes are so great for that montage and I suggest listening to it and paying attention to some of the lyrics because it's a lot of fun.
Speaker A:But here's just a couple that are relevant to what's happening.
Speaker A:So what?
Speaker A:So what?
Speaker A:So what's the scenario?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Because people are like, what the fuck happened?
Speaker A:No one knows.
Speaker A:I'm so confused.
Speaker A:Can we start over?
Speaker C:Like, every time they think they figured something out, it's like, no, no, no.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then a line.
Speaker A:I stay away from crime, so I ain't no criminal.
Speaker A:Because none of the 118 are.
Speaker A:Are guilty here.
Speaker C:They're innocent.
Speaker A:Then we have been caught stealing by Jane's Addiction playing during Hen's retelling of her version of events during the interrogation.
Speaker A:I'm not going to say lyrics because it literally is what it says on the tin.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's just like talking about stealing and getting caught doing it.
Speaker A:Yeah, very apt.
Speaker C:Except the, the tech, the detectives think they've caught them stealing.
Speaker C:It is not the case.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker C:But they were really trying to pin it on Hen a lot.
Speaker C:And it's just like, open your eyes.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No one is going to jump to the logical conclusion that it's the guy who's retiring.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, so then I think that leads us right into our themes for the episode.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Flashover.
Speaker C:So one of the first ones, I think it's fun to compare.
Speaker C:You know, we're dealing with a lot of procedure, like investigative procedure in this episode, which I link back to Fight or Flight from a couple episodes ago with the.
Speaker C:The search for Maddie.
Speaker C:And we talked in that episode kind of how, you know, a lot of people were finding, you know, loopholes of procedure, like ways to go around things.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:I feel like we kind of see that here as well, because we see the procedure being followed by the detectives and the police serving the warrants to search everybody's houses.
Speaker C:But, you know, they're.
Speaker C:They were looking for loopholes to get around, you know, having to wait for the safe to open up.
Speaker C:So that's why Bobby called.
Speaker C:Michael and Athena and Hen were kind of unofficially again on the case, even when they, like, probably shouldn't have been because they're under investigation.
Speaker C:So just kind of, like ways to kind of maneuver around the system a little bit.
Speaker C:And again, just like in Fight or Flight, it may not be the most right or legal thing to do, but, like, it is a lot more successful and efficient.
Speaker C:Effective.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we see that come up again, which I think is.
Speaker C:Is kind of fun to link back to there, because it's just like lots of incompetent detectives, and Athena and Hen are the best detectives on the show consistently because they.
Speaker C:They use their brains.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Crazy.
Speaker A:What a concept.
Speaker C:Well, they're very.
Speaker C:Logic.
Speaker C:They're both so logical.
Speaker A:Very logical.
Speaker C:So another one is trust.
Speaker C:And I think this kind of specifically in.
Speaker C:In the way of do you really know the people you love?
Speaker C:Or how can you really know someone?
Speaker C:Which was a theme that we did see in season one, and that was the 105 point of origin episode.
Speaker C:And I think that was Hen that kind of asked that question in.
Speaker C:Within the episode.
Speaker C:It's like, how can you ever really know somebody?
Speaker C:And it was a lot of.
Speaker C:Hen was dealing with Ava, and that was like the point of origin episode, was our unofficial Bobby begins episode.
Speaker A:So it's interesting it's coming back up.
Speaker C:It's interesting that it's coming back up here when we're leading into more of Bobby's past and Bobby begins again the.
Speaker A:Next episode how he began.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So that idea of, like, you think you really know somebody and A lot of times you do.
Speaker C:Like, everyone from the 118 and our fire fam.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They do really know each other.
Speaker C:But who you get into into bed with crime.
Speaker C:Because there's always that double cross.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So, like, I feel like this episode as a whole was a distraction, especially with the cliffhanger at the end.
Speaker B:You have, like, this buildup, especially with Hen.
Speaker B:Well, actually with everyone on the 118.
Speaker B:So, like, it's almost.
Speaker B:It feels like a red herring to the viewer almost.
Speaker B:Because at some point, when Hen is, like, doing Hen and Athena go back to the bank to, like, for her to try to remember what happened to her.
Speaker B:I know, I know.
Speaker B:She was, like, really worried, and it almost felt like maybe we could find out something about her past.
Speaker B:But no, in the end, it's actually Bobby's.
Speaker B:And then we have, like, all these other distractions.
Speaker B:I mean, the actual.
Speaker B:Like, the actual heist.
Speaker B:So what's his name, the bank manager?
Speaker A:Franklin Prentice.
Speaker B:Okay, so, like, Marty and Franklin Prentice were in cahoots with each other, but, like, they had their own roles.
Speaker B:Franklin Prentice was.
Speaker B:He had to create a medical distraction so that they could have.
Speaker B:Just so that they could start the heist and he can be in the fall and all that.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, those are some of the examples and whatever.
Speaker B:I don't know if you want to expand on that, Han.
Speaker A:Yeah, I also did realize that Hen really, literally is a red herring to the audience because.
Speaker A:And they were telling us this the whole time, though, because they were like, you were a distraction, but, like, she was.
Speaker A:She was a distraction for us in this episode because we were so worried about her.
Speaker A:First for her safety and then that, oh, my God, she might get in trouble or they might.
Speaker A:Something from her past might come up because she said that weird, ominous line.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:That she wanted to keep some of the skeletons in her closet.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What skeletons?
Speaker B:Like, like, what else do we not know?
Speaker A:I was like, we did the begins episode.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker C:We know everything we need to know.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I think I picked up on those same things, and I just.
Speaker A:I just put down pulling the wool over your eyes because that's just my brain likes to think and not succinct words because metaphors.
Speaker C:Metaphors make more sense.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it is very much like kind of think, like, smoke and mirrors kind of thing where it's like you're.
Speaker A:You're looking at something, but, like, you're not seeing it clearly.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's a narrative sleight of hand.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:Like I know you see it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And then I have advocating for yourself, which I think all of them are.
Speaker C:Doing very like, pretty effectively.
Speaker A:Yeah, effectively.
Speaker A:I think they were all dumb to talk to them without lawyers.
Speaker A:But I guess that wouldn't have made for a very interesting episode because they don't have a lawyer friend, which is shocking.
Speaker A:Like I feel like they should.
Speaker C:How do they not have a lawyer?
Speaker A:I don't know, but they feel like they should have one like on retainer.
Speaker C:I think lawyers have just been kind of ruined for the majority of them thanks to Buck.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker C:But also they did nothing wrong.
Speaker C:They were innocent.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, but specifically I think hen took this one, you know, the furthest because she was the one getting, you know, the most blatantly accused.
Speaker A:And she was like, not only am I going to tell them that I'm innocent, I'm gonna go like figure out what actually happened.
Speaker C:Prove them wrong.
Speaker A:These people are idiots, basically.
Speaker A:And then we have the tried and true having each other's backs.
Speaker C:Oh boy.
Speaker C:Yeah, I, I think this is a great example of like everybody having each other's backs, like as a, as a unit, as a group because they're all.
Speaker C:They, they do actually know each other very well and very thoroughly.
Speaker C:So they, they keep kind of supporting each other and, and kind of like.
Speaker C:Sorry to bring it up again in that Supernatural episode, the, the Folsom Prison Blues where you know, they have, they have Sam and Dean separated in the interrogation rooms, but they are telling the same story because they've got everything like so airtight.
Speaker C:Like that is kind of what's happening here with all of the 118 and Athena and Michael so just having each other's backs.
Speaker C:But also with the like the detectives accusing everyone of like working together, you know, like this is a big put up job.
Speaker C:So like you could also say partners in crime.
Speaker C:So having each other's backs.
Speaker C:Partners.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker C:I just really wanted to get that in there.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:And I guess another theme.
Speaker A:I guess I'll bring it up in the theme section because I didn't want to bring it up individually for every single person who got accused of this, which I think was pretty much everybody.
Speaker A:Almost everyone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which was just like.
Speaker A:But why did you do this thing?
Speaker A:Because that was risky if you hadn't planned it out to like work out.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I'm literally a first respond.
Speaker A:I'm a paramedic.
Speaker A:I'm a firefighter.
Speaker A:It's what.
Speaker A:It's my.
Speaker A:It's My job?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker C:So like all of this, what, like very niche specific, very competent knowledge is like a perfect breeding ground for.
Speaker C:Well, they would if they could.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But they don't want to do crime.
Speaker C:They want to help people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They could be terrible.
Speaker C:They could be very successful.
Speaker A:Be a great crime family.
Speaker C:Crime family, yeah.
Speaker C:Where's that fic?
Speaker A:I'm sure it exists.
Speaker C:I would like to see it because that sounds fun.
Speaker C:Not like a murder husbands thing, but like a.
Speaker C:Like a 118 crime syndicate sort of mob situations and crime syndicate, though.
Speaker C:Well, I, I meant like not.
Speaker C:Not solely not.
Speaker A:I know what you mean.
Speaker C:But like why not both as a whole?
Speaker C:Yeah, why not both?
Speaker C:Always a proponent for the both.
Speaker A:I needed more murder husbands so badly.
Speaker A:Did nothing coming into this fandom.
Speaker A:That was going to be one of my favorite trips for them.
Speaker A:But it is.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:If they wanted to, they would.
Speaker C:Or they could.
Speaker A:They're capable of getting away with crimes because they're very smart.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think it's just.
Speaker A:What would the theme name be then?
Speaker B:I would still just call it.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:They could definitely be a mafia.
Speaker B:Like I would just put it down there.
Speaker A:It's just first.
Speaker A:It's their first responders.
Speaker A:Like that is.
Speaker A:The theme is that they are willing to put themselves in danger and that they have very specialized knowledge.
Speaker A:So it is the.
Speaker A:It's the show.
Speaker A:The show theme.
Speaker A:First responders.
Speaker B:It was really funny.
Speaker B:This is a tangent in my little tag.
Speaker B:I was going to put, I don't know, some kind of like Fast and Furious type of like.
Speaker C:Oh my God.
Speaker C:Because it's all about family.
Speaker B:No, because something that it's.
Speaker B:Oh, it's chimney.
Speaker B:That's why.
Speaker A:Because he.
Speaker B:He goes on that whole like tangent.
Speaker B:Oh, we'll do anything for each other.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I guess like, if you do put them in that kind of situation in fanfic world, they could.
Speaker B:They could literally do a fast and do anything, you know, type of dynamic.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Absolutely dull about family.
Speaker B:That's why we do this.
Speaker B:Too fast.
Speaker B:Too furious.
Speaker C:And then they can send a fire engine into space, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Karen can put it there.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Wait, wait.
Speaker C:No, we have the resources.
Speaker B:They literally.
Speaker C:Resources.
Speaker A:Someone write that fake.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:I need the 118 in space.
Speaker A:She gets.
Speaker A:She gets them there on one of the engines.
Speaker B:She puts the whole fire engine in space.
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker C:And also like ambulance drifting.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:I really need to see that.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:Unhinged.
Speaker C:Unlike the safe door.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Unlike the door to the vault.
Speaker C:Very hinged.
Speaker A:My brain did not.
Speaker A:I was like, the safe door.
Speaker A:I was like, what's the safe door?
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:What's the unsafe door?
Speaker C:The vault.
Speaker A:Literal thinking is.
Speaker A:Is on tonight.
Speaker C:Apparently, the vault is very, very hinged.
Speaker A:That it is.
Speaker C:Unlike us.
Speaker A:Can't relate.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Couldn't be us.
Speaker C:Never.
Speaker A:Who's cooking?
Speaker A:So instead of our regular who's cooking?
Speaker A:Segment, we're doing something a little different because this episode's a little different, and we don't have a lot of meat to really sink our teeth into here.
Speaker A:For this episode, we're going to do a special edition of who's Cooking called Behind the Motives.
Speaker A:And take a look at when they're sitting there with the hack detectives and they're.
Speaker A:They're coming at them with their reasoning for why they think they're suspicious, why they think what they think could be their motives.
Speaker A:We're going to take a look at that and then just extrapolate a little bit from there.
Speaker C:So it's like we're in the interrogation room with them, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, but people with brain cells.
Speaker C:Wait, so there's three of us.
Speaker C:So if good cop, bad cop.
Speaker C:I'm neutral cop.
Speaker A:Neutral cop.
Speaker A:I'm just a neutral.
Speaker A:You're a neutral cop.
Speaker A:I guess I got to be good cop because I can't see Sil being good cop.
Speaker C:Wait, who's neutral calling me bad cop?
Speaker A:No, I'm saying Sil has to be bad cop.
Speaker C:I'm bad cop.
Speaker B:I thought it was neutral.
Speaker C:I thought still was neutral cop.
Speaker B:No, I thought Rachel was.
Speaker A:I'm calling Rachel neutral.
Speaker A:She can't pick a side.
Speaker C:No, but I would be good cop.
Speaker C:Here, you want some water?
Speaker C:You want a granola bar?
Speaker A:Okay, then I can be neutral.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker C:Am I a bad cop?
Speaker C:No, no, you know what?
Speaker C:We all take turns that way.
Speaker C:Keep them on their toes.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, who's the good cop now?
Speaker A:So glad we've established this.
Speaker A:We're gonna start out with Buck and Maddie.
Speaker A:And their whole angle on this is that Maddie not only dispatched the 118.
Speaker A:Sorry, that's every day of their lives.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker A:But she dispatched.
Speaker A:And then you pushed the 118 to this call.
Speaker A:And then immediately after dispatching them, texted her brother and said, looks like our money troubles are over.
Speaker C:Terrible timing.
Speaker A:Terrible timing.
Speaker A:Basically, she finally has decided to move out of that apartment.
Speaker C:Good Reddit.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker A:Good for her.
Speaker A:But they're trying to get her security deposit back, and they're giving her a hard time because I Think she's breaking her lease.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which, like, I.
Speaker C:I would think because of the circumstances.
Speaker A:Landlords do not give a shit.
Speaker A:Landlords do not care.
Speaker C:Well, obviously the landlord wasn't Ravi.
Speaker A:Anar had cannons of Ravi.
Speaker B:I forgot.
Speaker C:If Ravi was the landlord, he probably would have had a lot more sympathy.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, he would.
Speaker C:Yeah, he would.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:So this.
Speaker A:This leaves Buck and Maddie.
Speaker A:She's moving forward again and he is back in this limbo of being transient and not really having a home.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And you really see that because everybody is searching everyone's houses, apartments.
Speaker C:You don't see them search Maddie's apartment, but you only see them search.
Speaker A:She says it, Car.
Speaker C:I know she says it, but we don't see it.
Speaker C:But we do see them just, like, tearing up Buck's Jeep, right?
Speaker C:Just like, flinging his shoes and his clothes and everything out of.
Speaker C:Out of Jeep and he's just sitting there.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, dissociating a little bit.
Speaker A:I would be too.
Speaker A:Like, you're ruining any organization I had.
Speaker B:I thought it was really funny how, like, the detectives were saying to Maddie how, like, she basically dispatched the 118 specifically, and it's kind of like the line where she's like, oh, yeah, you know, like, these things happen.
Speaker B:Like, you don't realize how.
Speaker B:How this can happen a lot of the times where.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just happened to dispatch.
Speaker B:I don't know, I felt like it was kind of like a dig at how we say, like, oh, the 118 is the only.
Speaker B:Or is one of the only firehouses in la.
Speaker A:You know's the only cup.
Speaker C:Yeah, Sorry.
Speaker C:And Maddie is the.
Speaker C:Maddie and Josh are the only dispatchers.
Speaker C:Maddie and Josh and Linda.
Speaker C:Excuse me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It just so happens that Maddie fields the calls that are directly around wherever the 118 are at any given time, whether or not they're in the.
Speaker C:In the station or.
Speaker C:Or out on the streets.
Speaker A:And sometimes she does it on purpose when it's the bachelor mansion and she.
Speaker C:Which honestly is so fair, like, and kind of surprising that that wouldn't happen more often because it's la, you know, so take an opportunity, you know, Take a chance.
Speaker C:Yeah, why not take a crazy chance?
Speaker C:Yeah, why not do a crazy dance?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:I think the only other thing I have is Maddie, when they're in the car in that flashback, talking about getting the security deposit back, they're getting into his Jeep and driving, and he's talking about Chimney's first day back, and she gets this.
Speaker A:This lovesick look on her face.
Speaker A:And I was like, I really hope he has a good day back.
Speaker A:And he's like, do you want me to tell him that?
Speaker A:And she's like, no.
Speaker C:Which is I.
Speaker C:I think kind of him getting a little bit of, like, redemption for all.
Speaker C:Payback.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:For.
Speaker C:For all that.
Speaker C:Like, Maddie kind of playfully, like, sister bugs him about stuff.
Speaker C:He's like, oh, do you want me to tell your crush?
Speaker C:I hope you have a good day.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like, it's very.
Speaker C:It's just very little brother.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which is.
Speaker C:Which is so great, but it's also very sweet because, you know, the last time we saw, like, Maddie and Chimney, they were just like, not yet, but it's still so obvious that they care very much for each other.
Speaker C:And they're just kind of, like, waiting.
Speaker C:Not really waiting, but just kind of, like, trying to find the right time for them.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like their timing, like, Chimney's very.
Speaker C:Still, very much on Maddie's.
Speaker C:Maddie's mind.
Speaker C:And it's so cute and also so funny because, you know, they're.
Speaker C:They're preparing for this welcome back Chimney party.
Speaker C:And Buck's like, chimney doesn't want it.
Speaker C:Just like.
Speaker C:Just like Chimney doesn't want the bachelor party in season seven.
Speaker A:But like, that when we got to.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I just like that connection.
Speaker C:I think that was.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's cute.
Speaker A:Buck's just being Buck this episode.
Speaker A:He's great.
Speaker A:I love him.
Speaker A:11 out of 10, the only one.
Speaker B:That jumps into action and gets in the fire truck.
Speaker A:And, yeah, he's like this.
Speaker C:So when they're drilling into the safe from the outside and.
Speaker C:And, you know, trying to take the hammer and.
Speaker C:And not really getting very far, and.
Speaker C:And the winch wasn't going to.
Speaker C:Going to cut it, and Buck is just like, ah, screw this.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And gets in the engine and just, like, pedal to the metal on the gas, like, fast and furious, right?
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like burn some rubber there.
Speaker C:Um, it's.
Speaker C:It's funny because it's like, when have we last seen Buck really go, like, full Buck kind of, you know, like.
Speaker C:Like season one in the past, I think.
Speaker C:Now.
Speaker C:Now when we see him do that kind of stuff, it's a lot more, like, measured and, like, there's a good reason for it.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's a good reason.
Speaker C:And he is, like, a little safer about it, but he.
Speaker C:He knows, like, what's.
Speaker C:What's in his capabilities, and.
Speaker C:And that something's gonna work.
Speaker C:So he's just like, I don't have time for this.
Speaker A:Also, he's not gonna wait for orders when it's one of his people on the line, especially, like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So one of the reasons was because it was hen, and he's just like, we don't have time for all this.
Speaker C:So he's just like, let me just, like, go full buck.
Speaker C:And it worked.
Speaker C:So I loved seeing that.
Speaker C:That kind of classic buck taking action sort of thing.
Speaker C:That was really fun.
Speaker A:Indeed.
Speaker C:It's always something with a hammer, too.
Speaker A:I was like, it's just because Oliver looks really good swinging a hammer.
Speaker A:They're always like, we're gonna make a.
Speaker C:He's probably just, like, getting some of his anger out.
Speaker C:Seriously.
Speaker C:Tim Minear, I think, puts his people through therapy in.
Speaker C:In the show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:We'll be saying that forever.
Speaker B:This is his rage room.
Speaker C:His rage room.
Speaker A:Because he doesn't get to go to it.
Speaker A:Oh, let's talk about hen.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:So her.
Speaker A:Her whole thing, they are just like, you were in.
Speaker A:You were in the vault.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Unconscious.
Speaker A:Unconscious.
Speaker A:And they're like, but you were the distraction.
Speaker A:And I'm like, the distraction couldn't have been the other person who was originally in the vault.
Speaker A:They're so dumb.
Speaker A:But anyway, it's, like, so close.
Speaker C:Point, zoom right over their heads.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then their proof for.
Speaker A:For her, like, having motive to do that was that her colleague said that she seemed stressed.
Speaker A:And then it cuts to Buck, and he's like, no, I called her crank.
Speaker A:I said she was a little cranky.
Speaker C:Also.
Speaker C:Very little brother.
Speaker A:I was like, he is in his snitch era.
Speaker C:Well, we know he has a.
Speaker C:A propensity to tell, you know, detectives or lawyers everything.
Speaker A:Everything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So then we see that she does have some stress and some.
Speaker A:Some financial worries going on because we cut back to her out at dinner, like, on a date with Karen.
Speaker A:And Karen is upset because she just lost her job at jpl, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Speaker A:This is, like, the second time, because I think she was working on a lunar mission, and then that lost funding, and she was on a Mars project, and then that also went by the wayside, and she said, the funding's drying up everywhere.
Speaker A:And so she's really concerned because they just put in a new roof and they have these expenses for Denny, like his daycare.
Speaker A:I guess that's the motive.
Speaker A:They think that's happening.
Speaker C:But also, who doesn't want to go to Mars?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker C:Karen.
Speaker C:Karen has a point.
Speaker C:Like, Sheila was like, why?
Speaker A:Why is Mars boring now?
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And I love what Hen says to her so much.
Speaker C:She's just like, you're the only person whose job is cooler than mine.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, that's adorable and true.
Speaker C:So one of, one of the reasons why they make such a great hair.
Speaker A:So cute.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:And Hen is also, as we see in the flashback where she was cranky.
Speaker A:She seems to be very worried about and anxious about Chimney coming back to work.
Speaker A:And I think she's kind of making light of it because she's like, they have like the plain sheet cake.
Speaker A:And Buck is like, like, really?
Speaker A:Like last time you had a licorice rebar through his head and she was like, this time you only got stabbed.
Speaker A:And it's like, oh.
Speaker A:Lol.
Speaker A:And I'm like, no, she is coping with humor.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because her best friend almost just died again and he's back to work and, you know, she's worried about him.
Speaker A:And then she's also extra worried about him because he's kind of heartbroken right now.
Speaker A:Like, he's heartsick on top of that.
Speaker C:So she, she wants to make this a, a nice first day back at work for Chimney.
Speaker C:And, and it is also so funny that, like, you see she's trying to cope with humor.
Speaker C:I don't think it comes to her nearly as naturally as it does for like, chimney because the humor is a little off.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It's like this time he only got stabbed, like, while factually.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Terrifying.
Speaker C:Like, I got stabbed and all I got was this blank sheet cake.
Speaker C:Like, like, gee.
Speaker A:And this lackluster poster that says chimney to death.
Speaker A:Zero.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:And I also like, for the, for the cake, I was like, they really missed an opportunity to do like a blank space cake.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Scenario.
Speaker C:You know, but that might have been a little too triggering on the nose.
Speaker C:But that's what I think every time.
Speaker C:I'm like, if only they did, like, the blank space cake.
Speaker A:Doesn't she give Buck a cupcake that bleeds when he comes back to his first day next season?
Speaker C:Hen's sense of humor is, yeah.
Speaker C:A little fucked up.
Speaker A:She's fucked up.
Speaker A:I, I very much appreciate it.
Speaker A:It aligns with mine.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's so funny because, like, hers and, and chimneys just like, balance each other out, like, very well because Chimneys is so, like, happy and like, light and, you know, all that stuff.
Speaker C:And, and Hen just like, because of her medical knowledge and, and she's just.
Speaker A:Everything is gallop all day, every day.
Speaker C:Like Bobby, but a little, but a.
Speaker A:Little darker dad jokes or gallows humor.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So then this is when we get a little bit of that parallel to season seven, because Buck is like.
Speaker A:He, like, are you sure we shouldn't even be doing this?
Speaker A:Because, like, he really said.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He kept.
Speaker A:Like has said several times that he really doesn't want to make us in a big deal of his first day back.
Speaker A:And she's like, he lied.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:This is so funny the way she gets, like, aggressively.
Speaker C:Just like, I love that.
Speaker C:We're gonna.
Speaker C:We're gonna have a good time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:We're gonna have fun.
Speaker A:Show him how much we love him.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And we are gonna show him how much we love him.
Speaker A:I was like, where was this energy in season seven?
Speaker C:Aggressive?
Speaker C:When.
Speaker A:When I think he's asking her, like, have you talked to him?
Speaker C:Did you call him?
Speaker A:Or, like, get a hold of him?
Speaker A:And she's like, no, I'm not gonna try.
Speaker A:Because he didn't even want this.
Speaker A:And Buck's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker A:He only said no once.
Speaker A:That's basically saying yes.
Speaker C:Let's be real.
Speaker C:Chimney would have loved the Bachelor.
Speaker A:He would have loved that bachelor party.
Speaker C:I think Buck was really just taking a page out of Pen's book as well.
Speaker A:I wanted to do something nice for his brother.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He deserves it, really.
Speaker C:Instead, Chimney three, death zero.
Speaker C:Still.
Speaker C:Where's his banner this time?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They can't do banners for Buck because that number would be depressing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:And they can't even say death zero because he's Hannah.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, the tally goes up on both sides, you know, because, like, he did live, but he also died.
Speaker A:So, like, that.
Speaker A:That whole thing that's.
Speaker A:That started in season two where it's like, you could have died.
Speaker A:And he's like, but I didn't.
Speaker A:But I did it, and he keeps doing it.
Speaker A:Can't say that anymore.
Speaker A:After a certain point, what is it.
Speaker C:Like, Buck three, lightning one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:So anyway, hen we get to see more of.
Speaker A:Of her bestieism with Athena, which is one of my favorite things on the show.
Speaker A:And like we said earlier, them being detectives is just, like, the smartest.
Speaker A:And that's why they can't do it very often, because it takes zero time for them to figure things out.
Speaker C:They're quick.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The department should just hire them as detectives because, like, their.
Speaker C:Their batting average would be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Impeccable.
Speaker A:She was being her hand self, and she was really trying to drag that guy out of there, but he put his hands on her and was kind of like, making her stay because he didn't want to be drug out of there.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It was a very hen move, like, kind of similar to, like, what did.
Speaker C:Where it was very like, classic Buck.
Speaker C:I felt like this was very typical Hen as well.
Speaker C:It's like she saw someone in distress and she went to go save them.
Speaker C:Because she takes her job as a paramedic and someone who can help save lives very seriously.
Speaker C:Especially like we saw in the last episode with Sonia the.
Speaker C:The pregnant woman and how Hen would just like, not stop doing compressions.
Speaker C:It's just like, no.
Speaker C:Hen sees someone experiencing a medical emergency, she is going to run in and help and then just basically messes everything else up.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's her job and she's going to stick to that reasoning.
Speaker B:It's her job.
Speaker C:And I think it's also so funny because she's talking to the detectives and she's basically helping solve their case and they're still like, pointing fingers at her and she's just like, seriously.
Speaker A:Which I thought was cute because earlier in the episode, Buck says that, like, when they finally get through the vault, but the vault opens from inside and so they're staring chimneys.
Speaker A:Staring through from his side and they're staring through the hole.
Speaker A:He's like, seriously?
Speaker A:Yeah, he just did all we opened.
Speaker C:Incredible timing.
Speaker C:They did all of that.
Speaker C:And then yeah, finally, a little too.
Speaker C:Too little too late sort of thing.
Speaker A:I do want to mention, I guess just since this was like her flashback was when they're hanging up the side.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:I don't know why she got Buck's help for this.
Speaker A:He's terrible at hanging signs.
Speaker A:Terrible.
Speaker A:I think this is where the lore starts maybe of him being terrible at hanging signs, but, like, she's just getting progressively more annoyed with him because she's like a little bit.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no.
Speaker A:And like, Eddie's just like, oh, my God.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Just patiently holding his perfectly where it's supposed to be.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I feel like a lot of these little moments with the characters are really exemplary of, like, you know what?
Speaker C:We would qualify as, like, classic or typical insert character here for what we just said with Hen.
Speaker C:What we said with Buck.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, I forget the last thing that she yells at Buck, but Eddie starts laughing because of whatever it is.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's just a very cute, very cute family scene.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sorry that she had to be so stressed out for it, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker C:Cranky.
Speaker C:Not stressed.
Speaker C:Cranky.
Speaker A:Cranky.
Speaker A:And she was.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker C:Oh, she.
Speaker C:He wasn't wrong.
Speaker C:She was absolutely cranky there.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's not.
Speaker A:That's not like, her baseline at all.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Which ha.
Speaker C:Which is usually a lot more, like, empathetic and.
Speaker C:And everything.
Speaker C:And she's just like, no, it has to be perfect.
Speaker C:So it's a little high strung.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then Buck just wasn't taking orders very well.
Speaker A:He's just not good at hanging signs.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:No, he's not good at doing things that make him.
Speaker A:Say, he can't even hang a sign straight.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:No, he can't even hang a sign straight.
Speaker C:Incapable.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:Let's move on to Chim Chimney.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:This was such a stupid fucking accusation.
Speaker A:Like, you're on medical leave for getting stabbed and almost dying.
Speaker A:Perfect time for you to pan.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker C:Like, what?
Speaker A:No, I was healing from a stab wound.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:And he's like, oh, to plot.
Speaker C:You think I plot?
Speaker A:Plot?
Speaker C:Yeah, like, while he was, you know, six weeks at home, and they're like, oh, yeah, I bet you were climbing the walls.
Speaker C:He was like, more like decorating them.
Speaker A:Because we knew it was like, more like rearranging my closet.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because he was like Marie Kondoing his whole life.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, when they're ripping apart his perfectly arranged clothing, that would make me so mad.
Speaker B:Color coded.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:Especially another six.
Speaker A:So hard when you have ADHD to.
Speaker B:Fold your clothes and put them away.
Speaker A:And then he did it in such a specific, meticulous way and color coded them like.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's messed up, man.
Speaker C:I wish the investigative teams were required to put everything back the way they found it.
Speaker A:No, it's kind of messed up.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's, like, really rude.
Speaker A:It's kind of like there should be some sort of decorum in how they look through things, but it's like they're treating you like you are guilty.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:So they just don't care.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, instead of innocent until proven guilty, but, like, yeah, with everyone.
Speaker C:It's like everyone was innocent, but they.
Speaker C:They really, like, did not give them benefit of the doubt.
Speaker C:So it's like, what are you hiding?
Speaker C:We're gonna take everything apart, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Chimney has this really great line where when they're interrogating him and they're, like, asking if they are conspiring, and he's like, we're family.
Speaker A:I mean, a bit messy, extended family, but we take care of each other.
Speaker A:We support each other, you know, and we have each other's backs.
Speaker C:Mark that down for another in.
Speaker C:In text.
Speaker C:We have each other's backs, which I think can be.
Speaker C:Can be taken in multiple ways because, like, they're family.
Speaker C:So it's like familial, platonic, but also, like, so much of that family is made out of couples.
Speaker C:So I.
Speaker C:I'm still going to count it for our little counter that I'm not keeping track of anywhere after we've said that we would do that.
Speaker A:No, I think the listener should please, please tell us how many times we've said things when we're starting a counter, because we've never actually started a counter for anything.
Speaker A:But I also think it's.
Speaker A:It's kind of like a little, I guess, not foreshadowing, but it's kind of mirroring the conversation that he has with Eddie in 218 at the end of that episode where he's like, crazy that we work 48 hour shifts with each other and then, you know, like, we leave and spend the rest of our time together too.
Speaker A:And, you know, then Eddie talks about it being a found family.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm just family that we chose.
Speaker C:That we chose.
Speaker A:Yeah, I guess I could talk about it in 218.
Speaker A:I shouldn't talk about it here.
Speaker B:The show, I feel, has a habit of, like, ripping away extended family anyway because.
Speaker B:Okay, Shannon is gonna die this season.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they have to lean against each other.
Speaker B:Well, Eddie has to lean closer and closer every episode onto the 118.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then another example could be, like, Albert, even though, like, I feel like he just got written off.
Speaker C:Bring Albert back.
Speaker A:Yeah, please.
Speaker B:Like, you can't get close to the 118.
Speaker B:I mean, look.
Speaker B:Look at Ravi gone.
Speaker B:But not for nine while he's coming back.
Speaker C:He just went on a whirlwind trip across the world.
Speaker A:I like the headcanon that he saw Gerard coming in and he was like, I'm using all of my PTF this.
Speaker A:I'm a landlord.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't need to actually be here.
Speaker C:He's like, guys, I'm going to go travel the world by going to take.
Speaker A:A leave of absence.
Speaker A:You let me know when this guy's gone.
Speaker C:Like, that could so easily be like a retcon.
Speaker C:Yeah, just do that.
Speaker C:Just do that for us.
Speaker C:And then bring Albert back and then bring May back.
Speaker C:And like, all of our, like, next generation Avengers, they've got to get her.
Speaker A:A job in la.
Speaker A:Like, she should be done with school soon, right?
Speaker A:So, like, she needs to graduate and then get a job in LA so she can have, like, a couple regular episodes.
Speaker A:A season.
Speaker A:Get her a job in LA that isn't first respondery.
Speaker A:So you can see her kind of regularly, but not all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did they ever say, like, what she wanted to do for school?
Speaker C:I think she was finding herself.
Speaker B:I know, but did we ever say.
Speaker A:A liberal arts degree?
Speaker C:Probably, but yes.
Speaker C:Chimney says they're all like a family.
Speaker C:So that's also like kind of one of the reasons why the.
Speaker C:The detectives are all like, you're all in cahoots.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Even though it's so not.
Speaker B:Again, if they were in an actual mafia.
Speaker B:Yeah, it would make sense.
Speaker A:But I mean, everything I have to say is just like they're all being themselves.
Speaker A:So it's like I was like bucks being buck and hens being hem, Chimneys being chimney.
Speaker A:And you know, he seems to be doing pretty good after everything.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, like happy to be back at.
Speaker C:At work even if he has to get interrogated after.
Speaker C:But yeah, it's just kind of like the.
Speaker C:The gang's back together.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So like everything is now kind of a little more right in the world, which.
Speaker C:Which makes the whole like, pulling the rug out from under them with the Bobby situation that much harder to swallow.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like everybody just got back.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think it's.
Speaker C:It's time for Eddie Edmundo.
Speaker A:His crime was being too competent for his own good.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:That's what I wanted to say about like, you know, Eddie being Eddie.
Speaker C:We're reminded again, just like in early in the season with his entire introduction that like, wow, he's just really competent at stuff.
Speaker C:And also here's a reminder of, you know, his military career and how.
Speaker C:Just competent.
Speaker C:That's not only him thinking that.
Speaker C:That it was a nerve agent, even though he proved incorrect.
Speaker C:But it's supposed to look like that.
Speaker C:But even just like as something as little as hanging the sign competent, perfectly straight.
Speaker B:It's the only straight thing about him.
Speaker C:It's performative, right?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:It's very practiced.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Sorry, that should have been in Slow Burn.
Speaker B:No, no, it's fine.
Speaker A:No, it can go wherever now.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So very competent when.
Speaker C:When like drilling into the save does a good job.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Go off king.
Speaker A:And then it very much gave me flashbacks to season two, episode one when he's like, oh, it's a nerve agent.
Speaker A:And it's like, oh, have you dealt with this before?
Speaker A:And he's like, no, but it was part of my training and it's very much giving.
Speaker A:No, but I know the ordinance.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm familiar with the ordinance.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Sask Master.
Speaker C:Which was an unreal thing to say to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:The bomb squad guy in charge.
Speaker A:Like, no one I.
Speaker A:I served with was dumb enough to do this, but I know the ordinance, so that's.
Speaker A:That's what it was throwing me back to.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:We cut to him in this montage when they're talking about family and then talking about, like, money concerns.
Speaker A:And then we get a flashback to him having a conversation with Shannon, like, in the driveway while they're.
Speaker A:While they're doing something in his car.
Speaker A:They're putting something in his car.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like that of his car.
Speaker A:But it's not groceries.
Speaker A:I had no idea.
Speaker C:No, I don't.
Speaker C:It was like the.
Speaker C:Like, shirts from the cleaners or something.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I meant to go back and, like, double check, but they were.
Speaker C:They were putting stuff in the trunk.
Speaker A:Do you think she's not living with them?
Speaker A:So maybe they're carting Christopher back and forth a little bit for like, a day or two.
Speaker A:He stays with her.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Like, we never really get to see, like, what the.
Speaker C:What the agreement is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, like, how much time Christopher spends with Shannon.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:If Shannon comes over to Eddie's house with Christopher or if Christopher goes to wherever the heck Shannon lives, which we know is not that far away.
Speaker C:But, you know, that.
Speaker C:That also kind of, like, implies that, you know, now they feel comfortable enough that Eddie would bring Christopher over to her place, you know, but we never.
Speaker C:We never quite get that confirmation.
Speaker B:She has a suitcase.
Speaker B:Just Chris Foia.
Speaker B:He has a backpack and some.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Things.
Speaker A:That's very much giving.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Maybe Chris is, like, staying the weekend.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I feel like even if she lived close, it probably isn't the same school district, so probably would stay with Eddie during the week for school and then maybe go with her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, he did say he was picking up extra shifts, so.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:So she's taking care of Christopher.
Speaker A:Shannon says she's concerned with the cost of all these things, which is like, his surfing lessons, which come back up.
Speaker A:Carla.
Speaker A:Private school physical therapy in the after school program.
Speaker A:And I was kind of squinting because I feel like some of these things are subsidized.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker A:Like, Carla.
Speaker A:And physical therapy is covered by.
Speaker A:I'm sure firefighters have good insurance.
Speaker C:They have to.
Speaker A:They have to.
Speaker C:Eddie probably gets benefits from being in the military.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Well, that's how we've.
Speaker A:We've said he has afforded the house.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:But he does say, like, I've been picking up Extra shifts before we go to this flashback, you know, because, like, kids are worth it, but they are expensive.
Speaker A:And then I was like, oh, he's picking up extra shifts, but somehow he was managing these costs all super fine before Shannon came back.
Speaker A:It's giving.
Speaker A:He's running away, but staying in place while he does it.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's really interesting.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But it's kind of like he.
Speaker C:In his way, he might also think it's him giving Chris an opportunity to spend time with his mom.
Speaker C:So it's like a sacrifice that he's willing to make, but it also drastically decreases the amount of time that Eddie spends with Shannon and Chris.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Or just Shannon.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And considering the next time we see them, it's her being like, what am I to you?
Speaker A:I'm assuming he was doing whatever he could to avoid having more serious conversations about them since they already resolved the Christopher thing now.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it's totally not like we haven't seen him do that before.
Speaker C:But now he's.
Speaker C:But now he's using.
Speaker C:In this case, he would be using work as opposed to physical.
Speaker A:Hard to distract from talking about a conversation about your relationship if you're screwing.
Speaker C:That's how that whole thing blew up.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it's the.
Speaker C:It's also kind of the same thing that Eddie always does where he's like, okay, well, now I have to provide for my family.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So part of that run to the military.
Speaker C:I'm going to, like, be the man of the house.
Speaker C:Now that he's got what he thinks is, like, his intact family again, he's like, well, I.
Speaker C:I gotta.
Speaker C:I gotta step up, be the man of the house.
Speaker C:Even though, like, that's what he was already doing.
Speaker C:But it's just like, yeah, yeah, he's doing.
Speaker C:He's doing the same thing where he runs away to the way that he can provide for his family specifically.
Speaker A:And kids are expensive, so extra shifts are helpful.
Speaker A:And if it comes with the outside benefit that he can avoid things that he doesn't want to look at, then great, then it can help him Gaslight himself.
Speaker C:Also.
Speaker B:Classic Eddie avoiding shit.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, who wrote.
Speaker C:Who wrote this episode?
Speaker C:Was it Andrew Myers?
Speaker C:Like, oh, just really great example of how writers can just get all of the characters right.
Speaker C:Because especially when you're juggling so many, like, so much of the ensemble.
Speaker C:It's like the entire ensemble pretty much.
Speaker A:Especially this one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And just like beat for beat, every single character is like, yes, this is classic.
Speaker C:This is totally in character.
Speaker C:100 believable.
Speaker C:Like, it's.
Speaker C:It's really good.
Speaker C:I want to see who else.
Speaker C:What else he's written.
Speaker C:Give me one second.
Speaker C:This was the first episode that Andrew Myers wrote or 911.
Speaker C:And it just really shows a lot of pressure.
Speaker C:It really shows how well that he must have done his research.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Because everything is so.
Speaker A:Just, like, understood the assignment tightly in character.
Speaker C:He did understand the assignment.
Speaker B:Who did?
Speaker B:Buck Begins.
Speaker C:Hang on.
Speaker C:Juan Carlos Cotto should have known that it was him.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:It was not Buck Begins that I was questioning.
Speaker A:What were you questioning?
Speaker B:Buck Bothered and Bewildered.
Speaker C:Oh, and it was him.
Speaker C:It was him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay, so Andrew Myers also wrote Buck Bothered Bewildered, which.
Speaker C:And he also did.
Speaker A:Didn't he do Confession?
Speaker B:Yes, he did.
Speaker A:I remember.
Speaker A:That's one of the reasons we were excited, because the same person who was doing Confessions was the same person who.
Speaker C:Did Buck bother Bewildered.
Speaker C:Wait.
Speaker C:Wait a second.
Speaker C:Wait a second.
Speaker C:Okay, I have the list of what he's.
Speaker C:What he's written here.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:So notably, I won't say all of them, but Ocean's 911 is the first episode that Andrew Myers wrote for 911.
Speaker C:He did the taking of Dispatch 911 in season three with kind of that other heist scenario.
Speaker C:He did suspicion in season four, which is 413, which is the one that shot with Lindsey Beaulio.
Speaker C:He did Brawl and cell block 911 in season five.
Speaker A:He did Sunset Pattern.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:But for those of you who don't know, we just recorded our Couch Theory episode.
Speaker C:He wrote Let the Games Begin, which is the first episode of season six, which was the Couch Theory episode.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker A:I mean, we talked about.
Speaker C:We should have talked about him.
Speaker C:We didn't talk about who wrote.
Speaker C:No, it was all just, like, very.
Speaker C:From a narrative analysis.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And Recovery, which was 6:12, which is the one that Buck goes over to Eddie's house.
Speaker A:Yes, I see what you are.
Speaker B:He also did fearophobia.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Phobia, which was the one that.
Speaker C:That Eddie had.
Speaker A:The breakdown.
Speaker C:The breakdown in season five.
Speaker C:And Ashes to Ashes with Eddie.
Speaker C:So, like.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, I see what you are.
Speaker C:In True Buyers, Our undying love and gratitude.
Speaker C:And please let us know where we can forward your fruit basket.
Speaker C:Thank you very much.
Speaker A:Thank you for your service.
Speaker C:Yeah, we are.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Sorry for that tangent, but I'm glad we went on it.
Speaker B:That's a very buddy resume.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker A:That is a very buddy resume.
Speaker C:It's like an entirely buddy resume.
Speaker A:It's a very buddy.
Speaker A:And individually, Buck and Eddie and like some of their best episodes, storylines like that.
Speaker C:Of course, that's not all of his episodes, but it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He just has from the, like, right out the gate, such a strong handle on all of these characters.
Speaker C:It's very impressive, especially coming in more than halfway through of a second season of a show.
Speaker C:Like, he really must have done his homework.
Speaker C:And he did it well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it.
Speaker C:It shows.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:Because now we get episodes like these and all the ones that we just mentioned because I think those are also some of our favorites.
Speaker C:Were we still talking about Eddie?
Speaker A:I think we were done.
Speaker A:I think I was trying to move us to Michael when you were like, wait a second.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker A:And it's okay.
Speaker B:That's like a tangent.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker A:It is a good tangent.
Speaker A:I like that tangent.
Speaker A:So moving on to Michael, who's.
Speaker A:Who's suspicious because he's friends with his ex's new squeeze.
Speaker C:Well, not like that.
Speaker C:That's a actually healthy relationship to have.
Speaker C:You know, very amicable, very friendly.
Speaker C:That builds on what we saw.
Speaker C:It was last episode, Right.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:With Broken, with Michael feeling so insecure and taking it out on Bobby.
Speaker C:But then they have this heart to heart and.
Speaker C:And kind of see eye to eye and bond a little bit.
Speaker C:So that kind of paves the way for them to.
Speaker C:To be buds.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And ask for favors.
Speaker C:Which is kind of fun because it's.
Speaker C:It's almost like the way Athena and hen kind of investigate together.
Speaker C:It's Bobby and Michael kind of like conspiring to save hen, but.
Speaker C:But working together in like, that finding a loophole kind of way.
Speaker C:Which is really fun.
Speaker C:And we also see that in future seasons as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like the.
Speaker C:The Bobby Michael team ups are just really enjoyable.
Speaker A:They're great.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker A:This is their first one, right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It is just kind of like watching dad have.
Speaker C:Have fun.
Speaker A:Is this the first time we hear him actually call Bobby his friend?
Speaker C:I think so.
Speaker A:Which is cute.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think all I can really say other than that is that he's.
Speaker A:He seems to be like, adjusting to like, his new place in this family dynamic and that he is not like, upset about it, but he's still just like, trying to like, find the new.
Speaker C:Normal, like the balance.
Speaker A:Like, even though he likes Bobby, it's.
Speaker A:It's a weird situation to be in.
Speaker A:It's a weird dynamic.
Speaker C:And it also, I think, does help too that in this instance, it's not just Athena connecting them, but it's Hen as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because they would both do anything for their friends.
Speaker C:You know, hen is family in, in both of their eyes.
Speaker C:So they're also going to do what they can for her specifically.
Speaker C:And it just like, gives.
Speaker C:It just allows them, like, more opportunity to bond and like, build that.
Speaker C:That relationship that, that helps the Grant Nash family thrive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Poor Michael gets all of his work taken away from him.
Speaker A:I'm in a laptop and then it's like, I guess I'm gonna borrow my kid's computer and then finds out that's also gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm just.
Speaker A:I just thought it was.
Speaker A:So I guess we'll talk for Athena here a little bit.
Speaker A:Just a couple little things.
Speaker A:I just think it's so funny that she knew that they were gonna get searched and she didn't say to anybody.
Speaker C:Oh, where's the loyalty?
Speaker C:Well, for real, that's.
Speaker C:That's what I thought at first also.
Speaker C:But then I was also like, you know, in.
Speaker C:In her mind, if she knows that they're getting investigated, for all of them to conspire with each other for this sort of heist, her alerting them and giving people a heads up would also probably be a little suspicious.
Speaker C:And this is like, I think also one of the only times where Athena doesn't like, activate a loophole in, in the system.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Because a very Athena thing to do is kind of like, you know, take matters into her own hands and stuff.
Speaker C:And I think while this isn't what we would typically see her do.
Speaker C:Well, we do see what she would typically do with, with investigating it with hen, but it's also really fun to see the other where she's on the other side of the law a little bit, and she's just like, listen, I'm gonna let them do what they gotta do because I know I'm good.
Speaker C:And, you know, and it's just.
Speaker C:It is what it is.
Speaker C:So I'm just going to let justice proceed the way it should be, because she knows she's going to, like, come out on top on the other side.
Speaker C:But it's so funny because she's just like, yep, coffee's.
Speaker C:Coffee's in the kitchen.
Speaker C:Do what you gotta do.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna sit here and watch you and intimidate you in the way that Athena intimidates everybody.
Speaker C:And also, that is one of the.
Speaker C:That is the reason why her house wasn't turned over completely.
Speaker C:They put everything back in the place because she was giving them, you know, like, you.
Speaker C:You better be putting everything back where you found it or else.
Speaker C:Yeah, so I, I did, I did love that.
Speaker C:That Little difference as well.
Speaker C:It was really funny.
Speaker A:One of the first episodes where we really see her, like, towing that line in between these two different worlds where she is a cop, but also she.
Speaker A:She knows these people and trust them implicitly.
Speaker A:So when they, like, bring this theory to her about, like, Bobby and Michael conspiring together, she just loses her shit.
Speaker A:Oh, that's so funny.
Speaker C:It's so great.
Speaker A:Guys are cute.
Speaker C:Like, this is.
Speaker C:This is, you know, Ellie's finest.
Speaker C:Like, come on.
Speaker C:If you're going to be bringing a crack theory to Sergeant Athena Grant for real, you better have everything, like, airtight.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Because she will poke holes in it immediately.
Speaker C:And she does.
Speaker C:So, like, from that very beginning, she kind of knows, like, this is kind.
Speaker C:This is a bit of a farce.
Speaker C:So, like, just let them do what they're gonna do and I'm not gonna, you know, mess things up.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I think.
Speaker A:I think she was gonna just, like, not super get involved because she was like, there's nothing to get any of her people in trouble.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah, because she knows that they're all fine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But because Hen really wanted to advocate for herself, then Athena supported her.
Speaker C:Did they even have, like, any kind of motive for her?
Speaker C:Did they not even, like, bring.
Speaker C:They just brought her in.
Speaker C:Yeah, they just brought her in as, like, cross interrogation because everybody else was getting.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think it was because of the connection between.
Speaker A:With and.
Speaker A:Between Bobby and Bobby and Michael.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So they weren't actually the first thing I think they say to her.
Speaker A:And then she.
Speaker A:It just loses.
Speaker A:Yeah, I would lose it too.
Speaker C:Well, at least they were smart enough to not suggest that Athena.
Speaker A:That's the thing to do.
Speaker A:That's why I did initially list her here, because I was like, they don't have, like.
Speaker A:They don't say, like, a motive to her that I remember.
Speaker A:They aren't like, this is going wrong in your life or this is whatever.
Speaker C:Well, well, because at this point and there.
Speaker C:That's why there's no flashback between Athena and Bobby.
Speaker C:Because up until now, everything else, everything is going fine and they don't have any, like, stressful situations like everybody else is feeling at the moment until that shoe drops.
Speaker A:Speaking of, I guess let's talk about Mr.
Speaker A:Bobby.
Speaker A:Mr.
Speaker A:Bobby Nash.
Speaker A:Conspire.
Speaker A:That's what they said.
Speaker A:Conspire with fiance's ex husband to steal blueprints for the bank.
Speaker C:So stupid.
Speaker A:They say conspire, and he's like, conspire.
Speaker C:Like, Bobby has never conspired in his life.
Speaker A:So derisive.
Speaker A:He's just so dumb with all of this.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:I don't know how to talk about this without going into the scene dissection.
Speaker A:Honestly, I think everything I do have to say about it is in the scene dissection.
Speaker B:I mean, at this point.
Speaker B:I mean, at this point, like, I don't think he imagined this was going to be the outcome of all of that, you know?
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker C:And honestly, I feel like they kind of stumbled into this.
Speaker A:Like, it just so happens, like, the only thing that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:But it was completely unrelated.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:To what they were supposed to be doing.
Speaker A:So it's like, yeah, your municipal dollars at hard work.
Speaker C:Let's just, like, hop into that interrogation room.
Speaker A:Hey, where's the fire?
Speaker A:During Bobby's interrogation, they seem to be interrogating him more about his team.
Speaker A:And he is just like, I trust them implicitly.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:Nothing you're gonna say to me is gonna make me suspicious or say anything to you.
Speaker C:And he's like, I'm sure nobody did this.
Speaker C:Like, just so very adamant.
Speaker C:Because he does know his team so well.
Speaker C:And now at this point, his team also knows him.
Speaker C:Whereas, like, in Point of origin, in 105, that was a point of contention.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:That he didn't let anybody know him.
Speaker C:Now they all know each other, like, so well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Except that no one knows except for Athena, I think, about Minnesota.
Speaker C:Well, didn't he tell Hen and Buck?
Speaker C:Because that's what Part of Point of Origin was so much about.
Speaker C:It was after Worst Day Ever, and he relapsed, and then Hen and Buck found him.
Speaker C:And I know he said that, and.
Speaker A:I think he told Chimney, but I don't think he told Chimney, like, all of it.
Speaker A:I think he just told Chimney that, like, I'm the reason my kids are dead and, you know, they're the wrong kids.
Speaker A:Like, I remember that, but I don't.
Speaker A:I don't remember him telling the story to anyone but Hot Priest.
Speaker C:Well, he does.
Speaker C:He doesn't say say it to anyone.
Speaker C:But I think at the.
Speaker C:Like, the end of the episode, he's like, there's some things I want to, like, tell you.
Speaker C:Like, after the car wash call.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:At the very end, after the.
Speaker C:The car wash call, he.
Speaker C:He says to Hen, like, you know, there's someone that I want to introduce you guys to, meaning him.
Speaker C:So I think he told them a lot of what happened because he explained that, like, he lost people close to them, and he fears that if he gets close to people again, he may lose them.
Speaker C:So it may not be like, explicit.
Speaker A:But that's what I think is that he told them about himself, like, as a person.
Speaker A:And they know that he lost his family.
Speaker A:I don't think that they know how that happened and that he.
Speaker A:An entire building of other people were also lost in that.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't think they know that.
Speaker C:I took that to, like, maybe he wouldn't have told them, like, all of the details, but some of it, especially with, like, the little ledger and.
Speaker A:Because I felt like he had to tell all of them because how else would Eddie know?
Speaker A:He's not like, hey, nice to meet you.
Speaker A:I'm your new captain.
Speaker A:Let me tell you how I accidentally killed 148 people.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So that's just like.
Speaker A:That's how it has been in my head, that I thought he.
Speaker A:They found out about it because of this.
Speaker A:So anyway, he trusts his team implicitly.
Speaker A:And we have a flash to buck saying that he also trusts Bobby's call.
Speaker A:Like, he doesn't question it because he trusts him back implicitly.
Speaker A:We get, like, the foreshadowing of the scene at the end because they bring up Minnesota, and they say, you left Minnesota under a bit of a cloud.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:That's the only point in that interrogation where his face gets, like.
Speaker A:It breaks a little bit because he's like, don't like that they know that about me and that they're bringing it up here.
Speaker C:It's like they're grasping at straws to.
Speaker C:I mean, they're.
Speaker C:They're doing, like, classic interrogation stuff, like trying to get.
Speaker C:Twist his arm a little bit to.
Speaker C:To get some sort of confession.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Some sort of reaction that they can point to and be like, aha.
Speaker B:Wait, so do you think, like, these two detectives, do you think that they were like, well, damn, they foil our case, basically, like, we can't do anything.
Speaker B:They did all of this to, like, find them as guilty, but they.
Speaker B:They couldn't do that.
Speaker B:So they were like, oh, let me just slip this to the LAFD and so that they can investigate further, like, you know, Bobby's past.
Speaker B:We just thought we flagged this here.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I guess they have to report all their.
Speaker C:Their findings.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And since that they're probably sharing some sort of shared system that it got flagged because I'm sure the LAFD had to review it because it was all of their people getting interrogated.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I think it was just, like, in the records.
Speaker C:But the fact that, you know, the.
Speaker C:The detectives went that far back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And tried to use that as leverage to.
Speaker C:To basically get a guilty person, or, sorry, an innocent person, to plea guilty.
Speaker C:Because at this point, they were really grasping at straws with all of the interrogations that they were just like, well, you did this and you did that.
Speaker C:Just kind of like offering up all of these, like, possible scenarios that aren't necessarily don't make sense with, you know, like, how they could have actually done the thing.
Speaker C:Like, yes, there might have been motive, but, like, realistically, how would any of.
Speaker B:Them have actually the means to actually do all this?
Speaker C:Yeah, so I think.
Speaker C:I think they were really just trying to, like, you know, not necessarily even, like, get the right guy, but just get a guy and pin it on someone.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:Which is not great, because if.
Speaker C:If Hen and Athena hadn't taken it upon themselves to.
Speaker C:To really do the investigation, like, it would have either been a cold case or they would have gotten gone even, like, harder on, like, further interrogations, I think.
Speaker C:But yeah, this is like, the most, like, deep back story thing that they crop in front of any of.
Speaker C:Any of the characters, too.
Speaker C:So it's like, why did they choose that one?
Speaker C:Or maybe it was just like that.
Speaker C:That's the only eyebrow raising in.
Speaker C:In any of their pasts.
Speaker C:So they.
Speaker C:They said that.
Speaker C:They said, like, okay, we're using this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then we end with a cliffhanger.
Speaker C:The LAFD was, I guess, notified about Bobby's history and how he wasn't as forthright about why he left Minnesota.
Speaker C:And I think it does say a lot here that Chief Alonzo made a house call personally.
Speaker C:So it, like, shows respect, but also, don't shoot the messenger, but he is the bearer of bad news, saying that Bobby is going to be suspended pending investigation.
Speaker C:Now they have to look into that because, lo and behold, it was Bobby who had skeletons in his closet because.
Speaker A:He lied in his application to the lafd.
Speaker A:And Athena's, like, very fiercely, like, trying to defend him and be like, who are you to come in here and say that?
Speaker A:You better have good reason.
Speaker A:And they're like, he lied.
Speaker A:And then her face completely changes because the dumbass detectives say, truth is, you don't know the people you work with, and they don't know you, do they?
Speaker A:Captain Nash?
Speaker A:Which is not true.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:But he did start his career off here with a lie, and he didn't tell Athena that.
Speaker A:Which is, like, crazy.
Speaker A:Out of, like, all the things he told her about his past, that was, like, the one thing he didn't tell her.
Speaker C:Well, when he said he lied about the, you know, what happened in Minnesota.
Speaker C:And it seemed like she Seemed like she knew.
Speaker A:I read that completely differently.
Speaker C:I just read it.
Speaker C:I just read it different.
Speaker C:But I guess we'll find out in the next episode.
Speaker B:Keep in mind, I mean, we haven't watched these episodes since, like, April.
Speaker C:Yeah, probably.
Speaker B:So it's kind of like.
Speaker B:It's a little blurry.
Speaker B:I think I may have had the same interpretation as Rachel with that line, at least.
Speaker B:Like, maybe he told her part of it, maybe not everything.
Speaker C:Because we know he didn't tell her about, like, the book, Right?
Speaker C:Yeah, because he doesn't say that until season seven.
Speaker C:Yeah, but, like, we know.
Speaker C:We remember that.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker C:I guess I don't know how much else I.
Speaker C:I thought it was.
Speaker C:It was more.
Speaker C:But we.
Speaker C:We don't see it on screen.
Speaker C:So it just rolls right into what's going to be the.
Speaker C:The next episode, which is revisiting the point of origin and what we see in the flashbacks from there, and which was the unofficial Bobby Begins episode.
Speaker C:So now, like, in the season where they do all of these begins episodes, we get our first or only begins again.
Speaker A:Well, lit is his begins.
Speaker A:I mean, I know they call it begins again, but everyone else's begins episode is how they came to the.
Speaker A:Where they are now to the la.
Speaker A:Include that.
Speaker C:So that makes sense.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's the continuation.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I have two wildly small things that I read deeply into flashback to Michael.
Speaker A:In his interrogation.
Speaker A:He says, I was trying to help a friend.
Speaker A:And the detectives go, your ex's new squeeze is your friend.
Speaker A:And Michael says, hen is my friend?
Speaker A:I mean, yes, Bobby's a friend too.
Speaker A:Hell, they're all my friends.
Speaker A:It cuts immediately to Eddie, and he's like, I don't really know him.
Speaker B:Why you gotta be like that, Eddie?
Speaker A:Geez.
Speaker A:I was like, you just told the man you loved him last episode on.
Speaker C:First meeting because he brought what, like donuts or something?
Speaker B:Donuts and coffee.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just thought that was really interesting for them to, like, two episodes in a row focus on these two characters for really, like, nothing moments.
Speaker A:But, like, this one specifically was like, why are we drawing attention again to specifically these two characters?
Speaker C:Yeah, the second.
Speaker C:Second time that we're drawing, we're making direct connection between Michael and Eddie.
Speaker C:And for what?
Speaker C:Because they really.
Speaker C:They've only interacted the one time.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like what.
Speaker C:What is.
Speaker C:So what do they have in common?
Speaker B:And why.
Speaker B:Why are they picking these two to have an interaction when they don't?
Speaker B:I don't know, we're choices.
Speaker B:Interesting choices.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And also, for all of the insistence and emphasis on, you know, this is a big family, it's an extended family.
Speaker C:Michael and Eddie are really some of the only people that aren't super, super close as everybody else.
Speaker C:And I kind of wonder, too, if.
Speaker A:And Maddie and Eddie, then I wonder why both of those things are.
Speaker C:Yeah, those.
Speaker C:Let's see, what.
Speaker C:What seems to be the common factor between each of those.
Speaker C:It is interesting because it's also like, I wonder if, from a character standpoint, I wonder if, like, subconsciously, Eddie's just like, I can't get close to this person because I know, like, things, and I'm not going to look at that further.
Speaker C:We're going to close that door and we're going to turn around and walk away.
Speaker A:There are also some parallels in their lives right now where they're both in these, like, transitional spaces and relationships.
Speaker C:Like finding a new family dynamics.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, I definitely think so.
Speaker C:So when you have all of the characters interacting so much and then you have just a couple that do not interact nearly as much, like Eddie and Michael or like Eddie and Maddie, that becomes the.
Speaker C:The lack of interaction becomes just as interesting and as.
Speaker C:And as important as the interactions that they do have.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Because then it's really just putting it, like, oh, well, that's something to pay attention to.
Speaker C:Wonder why world may never know.
Speaker C:Oh, we know.
Speaker A:So eventually, then I just, like, I don't really have anything to say about Buck and Eddie hanging the sign other than, like, they're giving each other looks when it seems, like, not a safe time to be doing that when you're high up on a ladder trying to hang a sign, like, maybe focus on the sign.
Speaker C:Well, there was also not the sign, but, like, when they're doing the safe and.
Speaker C:And Eddie's, like, drilling into the safe, and you just get, like, this cut to Buck, like, looking on.
Speaker C:Oh, it's just like, Like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Remember your comment about some real good competence right there?
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm not going to repeat that comment.
Speaker A:Is because you were channeling me because I couldn't talk.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, I have to make sure this gets said.
Speaker A:It was something just like, is looking at that going hot?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Oh, there were a lot of drilling.
Speaker A:There were a lot of drilling jokes.
Speaker C:That didn't come out of my mouth at all.
Speaker C:This is not.
Speaker C:That wasn't recorded.
Speaker C:I plead the fifth.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, there's innuendos to be made there for sure.
Speaker A:But the other very important thing I have to talk to you all about is back to the interrogation.
Speaker A:When they say, so who's your partner?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And it's like.
Speaker A:It's like, the culmination of, like, them interrogating everyone.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:We're at the end of.
Speaker A:Of that little flash to everyone.
Speaker A:It's when Buck is like, I'm so confused.
Speaker A:Can we start over?
Speaker A:But so it says, so who's your partner?
Speaker A:And they're talking to hen because they're, like, convinced it's hen she is the distraction.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So it goes from hen to the armored truck driver.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Then it goes from Maddie to Franklin Prentice to Chimney.
Speaker A:Then it goes to Athena to Bobby, Bobby to Michael, Michael to Eddie, and Eddie to Buck.
Speaker A:I'm going to break this down.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker C:Those went so fast.
Speaker C:I'm so glad you wrote those down, because those were, like, very quick pets, right?
Speaker A:It was because they said, okay.
Speaker A:It was because they said, so who's your partner?
Speaker A:And I was paying attention.
Speaker A:And then at the end, I clocked Michael, Eddie, Buck, and I went, interesting.
Speaker A:And then I rewound it and paused it a bunch of times.
Speaker A:So hen to the armored truck driver is that is like, her partner's not there.
Speaker A:Like, her actual partner.
Speaker A:Like, I mean.
Speaker C:Or Karen isn't part of this.
Speaker A:Karen is.
Speaker A:Is not part of this world.
Speaker A:So the truck driver is, like, representing this, like, hard obstacle that they have as a couple right now, which is like, her being unemployed and having some financial stress happening.
Speaker A:And then Maddie to Franklin Prentice to Chimney is.
Speaker A:There's an actual criminal between them, keeping.
Speaker C:Them apart, keeping them from being partners.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker C:Not Doug.
Speaker C:Haunting the narrative.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:And then we go Athena to Bobby, because, of course, that's mom and dad.
Speaker A:And then we go Bobby to Michael, because, of course, those are the two dads.
Speaker A:The two bestie dads.
Speaker A:And then we go Michael to Eddie.
Speaker C:For reasons I don't really know him.
Speaker A:I don't really know him.
Speaker C:But you know things.
Speaker A:You know things.
Speaker A:And then we go.
Speaker A:And then we go Eddie to Buck.
Speaker A:And I would like it to be said that they pause the longest on Eddie in this whole thing before they end with Buck.
Speaker C:Huh.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:I was like, this kind of editing is very intentional of how the order in which they do these things.
Speaker C:If there are extra beats to put emphasis on Eddie, if it stays on him for a little longer.
Speaker C:So it's like, okay, you've got Eddie in your mind.
Speaker C:And then it goes straight to bus.
Speaker A:So who's your partner?
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:To have the who's your partner be like, the question that Eddie is kind of has in his mind for, like, pretty much the rest of the season.
Speaker C:Like, is Shannon my partner?
Speaker C:Do I have a partner?
Speaker C:But also still have a partner in Buck, but also, like, maybe he won't because Buck of what happens to Buck at the end of season two.
Speaker A:Ooh, that was good.
Speaker C:Very contemplative.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I just feel like they're very heavily heavy handed.
Speaker A:Like putting all of these parallels and metaphor and symbolism around Eddie and Shannon and, you know, that I'm gonna call it a situationship.
Speaker A:I know they're married, but their situationship and, you know, their family.
Speaker A:So it's like, he likes that they're a family.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He likes that they are parenting Christopher together.
Speaker A:He likes that she's back in Christopher's life.
Speaker A:But so we see them get back together, and the only thing we've seen since them is her show up to the hospital, him not be super excited to see her.
Speaker A:And then we.
Speaker A:And then we see this flashback to him being like, don't worry about money.
Speaker A:Everything's fine.
Speaker A:Right after he says that, like, and he's packing up Christopher to go to her place.
Speaker A:So, like, they're not.
Speaker A:She's not staying over there.
Speaker A:He's talking about picking up extra shifts like we talked about earlier, because he's trying to escape because he doesn't want to think about why he doesn't want to hop, like, back into, you know, a marriage, a relationship with her.
Speaker A:And then the next time we see them is the episode that she dies.
Speaker C:Don't worry.
Speaker C:Said moments before disaster.
Speaker C:What could go wrong?
Speaker C:So many things.
Speaker C:So many things.
Speaker B:Oh, boy, I'm burial with y'all.
Speaker B:I can't wait to stop talking about Shannon.
Speaker C:To stop or to start to stop?
Speaker A:Oh, well, not like I was like, when are we gonna stop talking about her?
Speaker A:Oh, you mean stop talking about her being alive?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We have one more episode and the.
Speaker B:Parallels to her death.
Speaker B:I'm like, just die already.
Speaker C:I just want to get to season three.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker C:We know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:Especially because we just watched the tsunami arc.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker A:I just think it's.
Speaker A:It's insane work for them to be, like, going this hard on bringing attention to Eddie and him.
Speaker A:Him not, like, knowing what the fuck he wants.
Speaker A:And then we're gonna roll right up into her saying, like, what do you want?
Speaker A:And him being like, I don't know, us being parents to Christopher.
Speaker A:Oh, you're pregnant.
Speaker A:Well, I guess I have to do the same thing that I did when we were 18.
Speaker A:Oh, you want a divorce?
Speaker A:Oh, you're dead.
Speaker A:Be silent.
Speaker A:Like, it's just insane to go from, don't worry to be silent.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:In the span of an episode.
Speaker B:Could have said something different to that same.
Speaker B:He could have said it nicer.
Speaker C:His bedside manner was so lacking.
Speaker A:We should come up with a list, actually.
Speaker A:We should come up with a list for that episode of, like, alternatives.
Speaker A:You could say to your dying wife.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, we should actually.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:But, yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, so I.
Speaker A:I know that these things are small.
Speaker A:They're not.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They add up is the thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's too many small things that.
Speaker A:That are like.
Speaker A:You look at this one thing, you're like.
Speaker A:Which could mean nothing.
Speaker A:So I just look at everything that I'm like, it means something.
Speaker C:But also, like, when you look at something, and then it's like, okay, something kind of related.
Speaker C:Also small.
Speaker C:It's just like, it grows exponentially.
Speaker C:So then you're like, oh, wait, I have to look at all of it now.
Speaker A:So two things.
Speaker A:Just about these two things that I just talked about.
Speaker A:It's the.
Speaker A:So who's your partner?
Speaker C:Mm.
Speaker A:For me, it's that specific wording, that specific language that we know that Buck and Eddie have referred to each other in canon as that a couple times.
Speaker A:So that's why that also super stuck out to me.
Speaker A:And also just.
Speaker A:Sorry to come back to the.
Speaker A:I don't really know him.
Speaker A:I don't know why I didn't just say this, because I guess my brain isn't working.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:I don't really know Michael.
Speaker A:It's like I just don't really know myself.
Speaker C:Ooh.
Speaker C:Ooh.
Speaker C:Locked.
Speaker A:That's all I have today for the gays.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When Eddie breaks out of that closet, kind of like breaking the people out of the vault.
Speaker C:This scene, the.
Speaker C:I don't really know.
Speaker C:That's going to go even harder.
Speaker C:Like, let's be real, because there are too many similarities here.
Speaker A:I can't wait to see if there are more little tiny Michael.
Speaker A:Eddie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Moments among the years, because I cannot remember them super well.
Speaker C:But like, these.
Speaker A:But the ones we've already talked about, I'm like, were nothing sauce to me.
Speaker A:Like, I did not remember them at all for the rewatch.
Speaker A:So I'm interested to see if there are other little sprinkles of whatever the.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker C:Whatever it is.
Speaker C:Indeed.
Speaker C:But we will take out our little magnifying glasses for sure.
Speaker C:So we're on the lookout.
Speaker A:Always make it gay at all costs.
Speaker C:That's not hard for us to do.
Speaker A:No, it's our motto.
Speaker A:It's also Oliver Starks.
Speaker A:But it's true.
Speaker C:It is true.
Speaker C:He tries so hard.
Speaker C:He really does.
Speaker C:Ugh.
Speaker C:Talk.
Speaker C:Talk about a buddy warrior fighting the good fight.
Speaker A:Our strongest soldier.
Speaker A:Our strongest and bravest soldier.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He is the one leading the army.
Speaker A:He's our fearless leader.
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